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Male Performer Chat: Tips vs. Donations
Created by: jaygatsby1925

3/21 @ 2:38pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 36

In everyday life, a tip is a financial reward given after a service is performed, such as tipping a waiter or bartender after you've been served. On F4F, the word "tip" has come to mean credits given to a model even if he has done nothing to earn them. For example, we are asked to tip a model to meet a a shift quota or help him win a contest and financial prize. Such "tips" are actually donations or contributions.

Over the years, i have read many comments from members upset a model did nothing after receiving a tip. It was a contribution, because the moment it was sent, the member lost leverage in the transaction. Sure, some models have tip goals and promise to perform when a set amount of credits are received. But those tip goals have devolved into "make me happy" and smiley face emojis rather than any behavior worth tipping. Those are donations, not tips.

We cannot change model behavior, but we can change our own. Tip after something is done that is worth a reward. You decide what that is and how much. Use your credits to pay for multi-user and private shows where you get something for your money. If you don't, then end the show and email support. If you feel like giving to charity, then support a fundraising contest, but understand it is a donation, not a tip.



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perfessir
Created by: perfessir

3/21 @ 8:47pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

In everyday life, a tip is a financial reward given after a service is performed, such as tipping a waiter or bartender after you've been served. On F4F, the word "tip" has come to mean credits given to a model even if he has done nothing to earn them. For example, we are asked to tip a model to meet a a shift quota or help him win a contest and financial prize. Such "tips" are actually donations or contributions.

Over the years, i have read many comments from members upset a model did nothing after receiving a tip. It was a contribution, because the moment it was sent, the member lost leverage in the transaction. Sure, some models have tip goals and promise to perform when a set amount of credits are received. But those tip goals have devolved into "make me happy" and smiley face emojis rather than any behavior worth tipping. Those are donations, not tips.

We cannot change model behavior, but we can change our own. Tip after something is done that is worth a reward. You decide what that is and how much. Use your credits to pay for multi-user and private shows where you get something for your money. If you don't, then end the show and email support. If you feel like giving to charity, then support a fundraising contest, but understand it is a donation, not a tip.





This site is for fantasy sex. Nobody cares whether the remuneration is called "tip" or "gift" or "donation."
The way I look at it is the model is here for me to enjoy. If he doesn't make enough money, he won't be here and I won't get to enjoy him. I don't calculate whether he gets tips or gifts.
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beachboy31
Created by: beachboy31

3/23 @ 6:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 10

Very well said Mr Gatsby
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DaniGa22
Created by: daniga22

3/23 @ 11:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 25

I usually pay a tip and then ask the model to do something. Most of them do. Some don't. I never visit them again. Some will ask more tips to do it. Depending on what I ask I will determine at that moment . Sometimes I will pay what they asked and sometimes I will just leave the room and never visit them again. I don't like models asking for tips in the middle of a private session. I am already paying by the minute. I think I don't have tip them during the show. After the show, if I am very happy, I will tip them.
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icelandguy
Created by: icelandguy

3/24 @ 12:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 1

I haven't been here that long, but I've also noticed several models asking for increasingly large amounts of tips during private shows, and insisting that I give them to get even the most basic of things, like shirt off or trousers off (forget about anything stronger, where the asked-for amount of additional tips skyrockets). Problem for me is that I like these guys, but I'm finding it hard to visit them because they expect more from me than I can give, and their 'sticker price' isn't the real cost.
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/24 @ 2:09am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 215

In everyday life, a tip is a financial reward given after a service is performed, such as tipping a waiter or bartender after you've been served. On F4F, the word "tip" has come to mean credits given to a model even if he has done nothing to earn them. For example, we are asked to tip a model to meet a a shift quota or help him win a contest and financial prize. Such "tips" are actually donations or contributions.

Over the years, i have read many comments from members upset a model did nothing after receiving a tip. It was a contribution, because the moment it was sent, the member lost leverage in the transaction. Sure, some models have tip goals and promise to perform when a set amount of credits are received. But those tip goals have devolved into "make me happy" and smiley face emojis rather than any behavior worth tipping. Those are donations, not tips.

We cannot change model behavior, but we can change our own. Tip after something is done that is worth a reward. You decide what that is and how much. Use your credits to pay for multi-user and private shows where you get something for your money. If you don't, then end the show and email support. If you feel like giving to charity, then support a fundraising contest, but understand it is a donation, not a tip.






excellent what you said
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/24 @ 2:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 215

very true of what some have said above, it is true that some ask for more and more credits after one has given them, or during pvt they ask for cr, I did not support or visit those models, neither do those who put emojis in the party goal or things like this. That's why I prefer to take them to a group show or pvt
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Created by: jaygatsby1925

3/24 @ 4:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 36

very true of what some have said above, it is true that some ask for more and more credits after one has given them, or during pvt they ask for cr, I did not support or visit those models, neither do those who put emojis in the party goal or things like this. That's why I prefer to take them to a group show or pvt

Totally agree. I'm lucky to have found a model who gives more than he receives, who never begs or demands tips for nothing, and who appreciates what he receives. Check out Henri Theroux's room and his bio, with links to a limited number of VODs.
https://www.flirt4free.com/videos/guys/models/henri-theroux/

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JusticeCallOuts
Created by: justicecallouts

3/24 @ 8:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00


Totally agree. I'm lucky to have found a model who gives more than he receives, who never begs or demands tips for nothing, and who appreciates what he receives. Check out Henri Theroux's room and his bio, with links to a limited number of VODs.
https://www.flirt4free.com/videos/guys/models/henri-theroux/




Why does he only share the videos of your shows? Does he cum in any of them?
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/25 @ 4:37pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 215



Why does he only share the videos of your shows? Does he cum in any of them?




What happens is that the belami boys do not have their shows for users to buy or VIPs to see and those who have public videos are just a few videos.
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/25 @ 4:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 215


Totally agree. I'm lucky to have found a model who gives more than he receives, who never begs or demands tips for nothing, and who appreciates what he receives. Check out Henri Theroux's room and his bio, with links to a limited number of VODs.
https://www.flirt4free.com/videos/guys/models/henri-theroux/




Me too i'm very lucky to found too model like the same U say above.
https://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/dann-saenz/about.php
https://www.flirt4free.com/mode ls/bios/leo-diaz/about.php
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