What will be the difference between party chat and group in case you have to pay an entry fee ?
I don't like party for "one tips and many jerk" reason too - but making party same as group can't be the solution.
I can't tip always - as for many members, my stock is limited, unfortunatelly.
Do I have to leave room just for having spent all my credits in a pvt before party started and I don't have the 10 or 25 or 100 or 1000 credits left you need to enter party ?

It's up to the model to chose the way they rule their room.


As kuzman mentioned before "you had to have credits to get into the party chat in the first place".
If that was how parties worked previously, you would not have an "entrance fee", but needed to prove to have the potential to tip - by simply having credits in "ready" your wallet. You could enter the show and still decide not to tip.
The important point here is, I believe, to keep greys and basic users out of all types of special shows.
Other members should not be punished of course.
I read in another thread the demand of eliminating the "basic user membership" completely, keeping greys out of parties, but leaving party chats as they are now.

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It's up to the model to chose the way they rule their room.

I agree that we leave to models how they like their parties, that is with grey users or not or what it is the models want to do with them or guys who don't behave. It is matter of 10 or 15 minutes usually anyway before site boots the greys out so this motivates them to either register as members or login to continue enjoy the show. I like it really the way party chats are now, we never know parties may have encouraged many greys to join as members. There's always group chats for restricted access.
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"As kuzman mentioned before "you had to have credits to get into the party chat in the first place".

Can't remember those days - must have overslept them

If that was how parties worked previously, you would not have an "entrance fee", but needed to prove to have the potential to tip - by simply having credits in "ready" your wallet. You could enter the show and still decide not to tip.

It wasn't like that - but when they started party greys couldn't enter the room - and basics didn't exist.
So in a certain way only members who already spent somewhen somewhere some money could enter.
But that wasn't an assurance for no freeloaders at all. Beggars are of all colors - today as those days
Also you can find nice people in all colors


The important point here is, I believe, to keep greys and basic users out of all types of special shows.
Other members should not be punished of course.
I read in another thread the demand of eliminating the "basic user membership" completely, keeping greys out of parties, but leaving party chats as they are now.

There are different suggestions ... which one is the best solution, well, I hope that an intensive discussion can help us find out.

As I said before - those who request and wait for others to tip for them are of all colors. It's not only basics or greys who try to faketip models - I've also seen yellow ones trying to fool a model.

Greys and basics haven't proofed their age ( as you usually do it with credit card) - so in my opinion they should stay out of party as there is high possibility of nudity (which was the flirts reason to not allow nudity in public rooms before times of party and group). But money rules the world - if they attract more new users or even just more traffic - from the business point of view it is the way to make money

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Actually, basic users did exist...they were greys, only they could choose usernames for themselves. Then F4F made all the basic members white, just like the premium members, making it hard for other members to tell who could tip and who couldn't (though models could, if they had the room receptionist set up to inform them that so-and-so had a good spending history on the site). Quote

Actually, basic users did exist...they were greys, only they could choose usernames for themselves. Then F4F made all the basic members white, just like the premium members, making it hard for other members to tell who could tip and who couldn't (though models could, if they had the room receptionist set up to inform them that so-and-so had a good spending history on the site).

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There have been two of these "Feedback: Tipping Shows" topic threads posted in this "News & Announcements Forums". Instead of having two of the same ones in one section of the forum, if there is a way to combine the both of them, then have one instead of two. Quote

If the model limited his visitors to members only, I see no problem. I have seen some models advertise "Members Only". I have also seen models, particularly from certain geographic areas, conduct a show in free chat for only tips at the present time. One problem is that this site is a "pop-up" on a popular free tube which I shall not mention. On occasion, I have visited that free tube and to my dismay, I find myself as a "guest" for as long as 30-60 minutes on F4F which automatically popped-up. These non-registered guests, who may or may not be of legal age, would be delighted to see a free show. I might also mention that I have seen videos of private shows by our models posted on the free tube that I am referring to and viewed by tens of thousands of their patrons. The models are unaware that if they write to the tube site and explain the video was posted without their permission, and provide the video's complete address as it appears at the top, it will be deleted. Quote